Still Running

We're moving forward in tech, but are we actually? I wanted to understand what is powering our software, and why some systems still feel dated.

Your banking app is a few years old. The payment system behind it, Bacs, started in 1968.

We looked at 19 things people use every day. In each one, the system doing the work is decades older than the app on top of it.

How much these old systems still carry, on an average second:

219
payments go through Bacs, the UK system set up in 1968
6.9 billion in 2025

Pay.UK, Jul 2026

1,116
payments go through ACH, the US bank network set up in 1972
35.2 billion in 2025

Nacha, Jan 2026

81
transactions go through Horizon, the Post Office counter system from 1999
about 7 million a day

Post Office, May 2024

5
tax returns go into the IRS master file, written in the 1960s
162.8 million in fiscal 2025, most of them February to April

IRS Data Book, FY2025

I also make a daily word game called Long Story Short. Today's sentence is here, and it takes about two minutes.

Below are nineteen new things and the old system each one depends on. The line runs from the year the old part was built to the year the new thing arrived.

  • Solid line: the operator says so.
  • Light line: one step of reasoning, explained in the note.

2020s

Wisconsin opened a new claims website in 2021. The benefit rules behind it are still 1970s COBOL, and after federal grants ended in May 2025 the state wrote that it "will be unable to migrate to a cloud-based IT system."

Wisconsin DWD report to the legislature, Q2 2026

Direct File was the IRS's own free filing site. In October 2025 the Treasury announced that the IRS would suspend it. The master file underneath, written in the 1960s, carried on.

TIGTA report 2026-408-006, Mar 2026

2010s

Monzo started paying salaries a day early in 2019. It can only do that because Bacs takes three days, and Monzo can "see it coming in the system."

Monzo, Aug 2019

2000s

A factory in Taiwan kept its microSD testers on Windows 2000 because of a 20-year warranty: "Updating Windows, or even installing software would void."

peterburkimsher, Hacker News, 2017

1990s

137 machines in our list were born in the 1990s, more than any other decade. The middle machine of all 293 was born in 1991.

Muni in San Francisco loads its subway train control from floppy disks every morning. "It was from an era that computers didn't have a hard drive," said Mariana Maguire of the agency's Train Control Project.

ABC7, 6 Apr 2024

Muni Metro trains at Castro station, Market Street subway

1980s

Card payments, email, phone signalling, the internet's addressing and Social Security's COBOL all date from the 1980s.

Kevin Huffman ran his warehouse payroll on an Apple IIe he bought in the mid-1980s. "I still use the machine because it is so simple to use, I know the software, and I can still update the tax tables manually."

PCWorld, 2012

1970s

A lathe from 1976 still reads punched tape, now fed by an old IBM PC through a card that pretends to be a tape reader. "The NC lathe hadn't missed a beat in 50+ years, why mess with what works?"

myself248, Hacker News, Sep 2026

1960s

Bacs and the US 911 network both date from 1968. The IRS master file's code also dates from the 1960s.

In July 2025 the US government's auditor listed the 11 most critical old federal systems. They were 23 to 60 years old.

GAO-25-107795, Jul 2025

IRS computer centre, Martinsburg, West Virginia, 1960s

1950s

A family bought an abandoned eight-lane bowling centre in the rural Midwest for $105,000. Its Brunswick pinsetters are about 70 years old: "my 70-year-old bowling equipment (still) doesn't work perfectly."

section33, Hacker News, Jul 2026

1940s

Sparkler Filters in Conroe, Texas, ran its payroll on an IBM 402 punched-card machine, a model from 1948. "I may be the only punch card tech left," said Duwayne Lafley, who serviced it.

Houston Chronicle, 24 Apr 2013

1930s

New York's subway still keeps most of its trains apart with fixed-block signals, some of them from the 1930s.

Metro Magazine, Sep 2024

Long Story Short gives you one real news sentence a day, and you keep the five words that carry it. Play today's.

The people who keep it running

We found 41 people named in print keeping old systems alive. One of them has a named successor.

Tom Persky

Sells floppy disks from Lake Forest, California. 73 in 2022.

"I'll be here for as long as people continue to want to have these disks. But it's not forever."

Reuters via Times of San Diego, Oct 2022

Bill Hinshaw

COBOL programmer, North Texas. 78 in 2020, when state unemployment systems failed under pandemic claims.

"I will write my last line of COBOL the day before I die."

NPR, 22 Apr 2020

Sergio Montejano

COBOL programmer in Texas. 26 in 2019.

"Besides myself the youngest co-worker I have Is 40 years older than I am."

Texas Public Radio, 23 May 2019

The Voyager team

The Voyager team at JPL, April 2024

About a dozen engineers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory keep two 1977 spacecraft talking.

"We have documents that were type-written in the 70s that describe the software." Kareem Badaruddin, chief engineer.

The Register, 28 Nov 2024

Sarah Walker

Built and ran PCem, an emulator that keeps old PC software alive. In June 2021 she posted that she had "decided to call it quits." Michael Manley took over that December. Of the 41, it is the only handover we found.

PCem forum, 2021

Eric Dorsey

Was called back in 2014 to rebuild Stephen Hawking's voice, which came from a 1986 synthesizer. Hawking would not accept a replacement that sounded different.

"I was just kind of shocked that he was still using the same original hardware."

NPR

Today's Long Story Short is one news sentence, cut down to five words.

Why nobody switches it off

207 of the machines came with a reason someone gave for keeping them.

It just works64

One job, done the same way for decades, by someone who knows the software.

Replacing it costs too much56

You have to run the new system beside the old one until they agree.

It is wired into other equipment47

The PC is the brain of a lathe or an instrument, through a port new PCs don't have.

The author is gone17

Nobody has the source code, so nobody can change it.

A regulator certified it13

In nuclear plants and aviation, a new computer means a new approval.

A law or contract says so10

One company keeps a Windows XP machine on dial-up "for obtuse legal reasons."

I make Long Story Short as well, a word game with a new real sentence every day. Here is today's.

What it costs to try

Canada's Phoenix pay system

built for C$309 million

fixing it: more than C$5 billion

PSPC; Canadian Press, Jun 2025

England's NHS IT programme

forecast £9.8 billion

Public Accounts Committee, 2013

TSB's bank migration

£330.2 million in 2018, plus £48.65 million in fines

TSB Annual Report 2018; FCA, 2022

US Air Force ECSS

"over $1 billion"; it "has not yielded any significant military capability"

Senate investigations subcommittee, 2014

FBI Virtual Case File

$170 million

DOJ Inspector General, 2006

Things people say that aren't true

Voyager 1 launched in 1977. In April 2026 NASA switched off one more instrument "to keep the spacecraft operating."

NASA/JPL, Apr 2026

Today's Long Story Short is a two-minute game I make, with a new sentence every morning.